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Post by Drum on Jun 27, 2024 1:08:06 GMT
The Tilley T1 was the direct and immediate evolution of the very first hats made by Alex Tilley in the early 1980’s. This model was the test bed for nearly all of the signature innovations and characteristics that define the Tilley brand (from 1981-2017). From the pre-shrunk cotton duck, the British brass, the wind cords to flotation and secret pockets, everything that makes a Tilley began on a T1. The T1 is the prototypical Tilley hat. So… when, and why, did Tilley decide to remove the T1 from their catalog? From the first Tilley catalog in 1986 until…(?) the T1 was on page one. The earliest Tilley catalog that we have here on this forum is 2008 and this was perhaps the year that marked the beginning of the “new” T1 in the form of the LT1B, which is a complete buckety redesign of the original Tilley and, to my eye at least, an abomination of a hat. The latest T1 I’ve seen during my secondary market survey has a MMIII crown label, which would seem to place it in the 2003 timespan. I will keep checking T1’s I see for sale and update this part as necessary. Post up a photo of your T1 if you’ve got one and keep your eyes peeled for any examples of the original T1 and check the labels. In my next post in this thread, I will post some tips on how to spot original T1’s and how to date the T1’s you find. D Attachments:
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Post by NeilC on Jun 27, 2024 2:57:56 GMT
OK here is my T1It is a newer style that I got at a Thriftstore. It's a Black T1 Here are the photos
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Post by NeilC on Jun 27, 2024 3:59:48 GMT
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Post by Drum on Jun 27, 2024 11:38:53 GMT
My adhd is such that I am most comfortable with finite groupings when it comes to understanding a topic. Part of my life is a search for bright lines and limited time spans. In the case of trying to learn everything I can about Tilley hats, this preference manifests as a dismissal of every Tilley-branded hat made from 2018 onward.
It’s not that I hate Chinese made products or have any sort of disrespect for Chinese manufacturing skills or capacity. It’s just that the part of this story that intrigues me is the period beginning with the creation of a home business, the creation of a local industry employing neighbors and friends, the expansion to a global market all while staying true to the principles and predilections of the founder and creator of the Tilley hat. My interest in the Tilley story evaporates completely upon the sale and ultimate capitalization of the brand as a pure profit generator.
Your “new age” Tilley is, I’m sure, every bit the same basic hat as those made under Alex Tilley’s supervision, but I have exactly zero interest in learning what the various holding companies and Chinese workers have done and are doing under their “Tilley” tags. All that said, I am hoping that you or somebody (not me) will be educating themselves and the rest of us about what the new “Tilley” has been doing since 2018.
PS: good coffee this morning!
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Post by NeilC on Jun 27, 2024 15:22:18 GMT
Your “new age” Tilley is, I’m sure, every bit the same basic hat as those made under Alex Tilley’s supervision, but I have exactly zero interest in learning what the various holding companies and Chinese workers have done and are doing under their “Tilley” tags. All that said, I am hoping that you or somebody (not me) will be educating themselves and the rest of us about what the new “Tilley” has been doing since 2018. PS: good coffee this morning! I never wear that T1 Tilley. The strange thing is that it doesn't feel comfortable even though it is my size. I only have it because I couldn't pass up on a 2 dollar Tilley, even a "new age". I agree with you I don't like the new mass produced Tilley Brand hats. They feel like they are made by a machine instead of a person. My older hats have personality.
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